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A little Photoshop magic of planned upgrades..

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by Spvrtan, Dec 30, 2016.

  1. Dec 30, 2016 at 12:02 AM
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    Spvrtan

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    I was bored over the last 5 minutes and decided to see what some of my next major mods would look like on the truck.

    As of today..

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    40s on 20s (from 37s on 18s) disregarding using different tires (most likely IROKs) and wheels (probably will be gray wheels instead of white but with the same blue ring)..

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    The above tire/wheel upgrade plus a 1" body lift..

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    The above tire/wheel and body lift upgrades plus aftermarket LCAs (maybe LT but anything that pushes the wheel hub forward close to an inch)..

    40s_bodyLift_LT.jpg

    "Today" picture again for comparison..

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    Edit: The above upgrades with gray wheels..

    40s_bodyLift_LT_gray.jpg
     
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  2. Dec 30, 2016 at 12:06 AM
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    what gears you plan on going with to rock the 40's plus all the added weight?
     
  3. Dec 30, 2016 at 12:10 AM
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    I'll definitely go to 4.88s and a rear locker after the tire upgrade. The supercharger will suffice as support power until then.
     
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  4. Dec 30, 2016 at 12:22 AM
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    Dude..your rig is insane! Keep it up!
     
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  5. Dec 30, 2016 at 12:29 AM
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    Agreed to an extent. The supercharger plus 37's really didn't affect my truck in any noticeable difference aside from the 5mph it was off on the speedo. You have the added weight of the gear you run plus the RTT though. Before when I was looking at 39's with the supercharger I was leaning toward the 5.13's. Might be worth considering with the added weight your rig has.
     
  6. Dec 30, 2016 at 12:36 AM
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    I have the Hypertech speedometer calibrator to address the tire sizing and eventual 4.88s. No one makes anything other than 4.88s for the Tundra unfortunately. As for the weight, I have 800lb spring rate coils up front and expedition leaf packs from Atlas in the rear (with Coachbuilder +3 shackles) so sag isn't an issue. For sure MPG takes a big hit with all the weight but it really isn't that noticeable, especially with the supercharger -- I still get ~14.5 MPG of combined driving. It also doesn't feel sluggish at all currently; granted, I'm not romping in the desert at speeds above 50mph. 40s on 4.88s will be the same as 37s on the stock 4.30s basically.
     
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  7. Dec 30, 2016 at 1:18 AM
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    if 4.88's aren't enough with the family and everything all loaded down you can always swap out the rear end for something to accommodate 5.13's or 5.29's. 39's on 4.88's equal out to the equivalent of 37's on 4.30 with no added weight aside from frame modifications and suspension, add in all the extra weight and it might be worth it in the long run to source a used ford 10 inch or equivalent in the long run. Not just for mileage sake but also the transmissions sake.

    just something to play around with. Options are always good to have! Looking forward to seeing it on 40's soon!
    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...ezqxAAwXlinbRj8feRTk3XhHbi1lBsE3iQhoC-5Pw_wcB
     
  8. Dec 30, 2016 at 5:58 AM
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    Personally, I would stay away from SS Iroks. It's tempting due to price, until you see the performance.
     
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  9. Dec 30, 2016 at 9:54 PM
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    None, yet....
    Times a billion...!!!!!! Those things fucking suck. Great for mud supposedly, but that's about it.... they suck to balance, they suck to drive on anything but dirt, road noise is stupid loud and to top it off, they just look plain stupid.

    This isn't just internet searching. 3 guys have tried these tires that I wheel with simply due to price, availability and some people's "opinions" of these things being great. Each and every single one basically gave the tires away after effectively wasting their money on them. They were on one tons, coilovers and bypasses, with atlas transfer cases, etc etc. you get the idea, but they were super built.

    Based on your posts, it seems that you have been doing or seem to do the trials I have done in socal, so if I can recommend anything, stick to the big names. I love MTR with kevlar! Out of all the rigs I wheeled with, around 9ish, all but one ran them eventually. The last guy is holding out on KM2s, but is going MTRKs once those wear out. MTRKs are quiet on road, have thick side walls, come in multiple load ratings and most importantly, they have traction for days!! I love mine on my built XJ and the stickie compound is even better. Doubt you need that though since you drive your rig everywhere.

    Sorry for the rant, just my .02 cents on how much iroks suck.

    Edit: also based on the pics that @ColoradoTJ posta of the guys he wheels with, those guys seems to prefer MTRKs also. I know he has more cred on this forum than I do, but this info comes from a guy that has wheeled most of the hammers trails in JV. Among others are Dusy Ershim and basically all the big bear trails.
     
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  10. Dec 30, 2016 at 10:20 PM
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    Well, I'd love to do the MTRKs but it would be a very tight squeeze to make work because I'd have to use 17" wheels and the BDS lift kit's spindle is built for 18" or larger. I could probably make 17s work if I use a huge wheel spacer. 40s on 17s would look sweet, too, admittedly.
     
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    Your in a tight spot for tires when it comes to wheel size. 17" or 20" seem to be where the 40" sizing is at.

    I went with 17" on my 40's due to cost and beadlock selection. There are some selection for 18" wheels though.
     
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    you could always go with military wheels and tires! And they're CHEAP and proven! you'll always be able to find a set on craigslist. badaboom 40's/42's and 43's now you've got options and if you wanted you could run a internal CTIS system depending on how fancy you wanted to get. :)
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  13. Dec 31, 2016 at 12:29 AM
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    They're also like at least double the weight, haha.
     
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    the 40's with a 12bolt steel wheel including the mag run flat system only weigh in at 130 per corner. My 37 toyos on the rock warrior wheels weighed in at 102lbs per corner. Not much difference when you consider going to 40's :)
     
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    Agreed. 17s seem the have the most options for beadlocks etc. Although, I keep seeing more and more rock bouncers and a handful of ultra4 cars going to a 20 on 40/42s. Not sure if you would be game to change your beadlocks though.

    Have you run military tires? I've never run these or know anyone personally who has, but there are plenty of horror stories all over pirate about these things A) having terrible traction B) being dry rotted or super super stiff due to how old they are and C) and overall comfort being not so good simply due to how thick they are. I have heard that they are basically indestructible, but I've become a pansy in my "old" age and I'd sacrifice a little sidewall stiffness for less noise and more cushy ride.
     
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    Outside of using them in military for quite a long period of time, no. For the sake of dry rotting...that's on the buyer not fully inspecting the tire upon purchase. With a proper seal nothing gets in between these tires and wheels that would cause internal dry rotting not visible from the outside. There are many distributors for these tires new and used that are reputable sellers. You are absolutely correct in how stiff they are. Most newer 5 ton and 7 ton mil spec toys have suspension seats to counter the stiffness. And at the minimum, spring bases between the seat frame and the rails which counter the stiffness quite a bit as well. Indestructible, pretty damn spot on with that one. Even aired down to 0lbs these things don't slip out of the beadlocks with insane amounts of weight on them. It's just about taking the right measures when moving to tires like these. Upgrade to suspension seats and upgrade the brakes and he'll be rockin. If he took all the right measures and moved to military tires and wheels, possibly a internal ctis system he could activate inside the cab. It would be a reliable and seriously high mileage long lasting option.
     
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