1st Timer on Cleghorn Road

I thought it was gonna be a well maintained forest road based on the YouTube videos.

What a surprise I got.

Either my Bilstein 6112/5160 are shot or can't be tuned to reduce being tossed around on the trail.

Do all you veterans of the trail get tossed around no matter going fast or slow?

 

I had that set up for exactly one trip off road and realized it wasn’t going to take me where I wanted to go. But a word of advise, it’s a slippery slope if you walk away from those shocks. You might go MT or you might end up with a LT truck and an empty bank account.

 

Lol

Looks like I'll stick with getting tossed around. It may also burn some calories.

Perhaps the Bilstein coilovers can't handle the weight of the armor on the truck

 

Don’t remember Cleghorn being that rough. Done it a couple times this year. Did you air down the tires as well?

next time you do Cleghorn (or any other trails in the area) hit me up.

 

No I didn't air down as I thought it was just a fire road and probably wouldn't be rock crawling.

It was a fun trail late today to the 138 even though I didn't take any offshoots. After running a few trails in Moab I think I have a bit of experience under my belt to attempt some offshoots.

I drop you a line next time although my rig isn't as capable as yours

 

If you have a way to air back up, I’d air down even on fire roads. You’d be surprised how much just 10lb helps. I was in same thinking, airing down was for extreme stuff but now if I’m on dirt for more than 15min I’ll just air down for the comfort.

yeah, let me know next time. And BTW, your trucks more capable than you think

 

As far as capability and because you mentioned off shoots- here’s @Jackjack when he had spacer lift and low profile tires on a Cleghorn offshoot. Little 3wheel action



But like @roypark said its a slippery slope. There was a lot of upgrades done to a lot of trucks after the Cleghorn trip earlier this year.
right @Challenger1? Lol

 

That pic looks a landing after doing a Dukes of Hazard jump!

I wonder if a wheel alignment is needed after tackling the offshoots

 

I’m just butting in here because y’all are taking about playing in the dirt!

I agree with @TheFreshMouse, these trucks are pretty capable stock, enough to do several of the off-shoots IF you can pick a good line without worrying about pinstripes.

Also, airing down will make your truck more capable as well as more comfortable. I experienced in Sedona, you can go quite a ways on pavement before you air back up, as long as you don’t take tight turns (to avoid a pinch flat), so you can take it easy as you drive from dirt to a gas station to air up. It’s a better idea to carry a compressor but, if you’ll get back to pavement within a few miles of dirt, it’s doable. That said, grabbing a cheap-ass portable compressor on Amazon is a good way to go, especiallly if you’re exploring alone. Sometimes when you change a flat, you may need some air.

Yeah, @Challenger1 is our latest poster child. During our Cleghorn run, I recognized he was the “new Sunnier”— he couldn’t stop grinning and, since then, apparently, he can’t stop spending!

Probably not. None of the off-shoots I saw at Cleghorn will move your alignment. Pretty much, if you don’t take a big hit (and you’ll know if you do), your alignment won’t change.

Before you go out, use a paint marker to mark the positions of your cam bolts... run the mark from the top of the bolt out to the surround. That way, if they move, you’ll see the paint marks won’t match up. Cheap and easy way to keep an eye on small changes; you’ll know big changes because you’ll feel your truck pull to one side m and/or your steering wheel won’t track right.

 

That's a great idea about marking the cam bolts and the other very helpful pointers. I already have a compressor just didn't want to stop on the side of the trail and inhale all the dust as traffic passes by.

Learned my lesson in UT

Do folks air down below 25 psi?

 

Yes.
I used to get tension headaches after wheeling.
I had to go to a DO once after a run and he cracked my neck. Problem solved.
I still get the headaches but I can pop my neck on my own now.

 

I often air down to 18-20 psi. I didn’t used to go that low when I had an air compressor that was slow because I didn’t want to be last one ready when airing back up. Now that I have on board air and a nice two tires at a time setup (that’s very fast) I don’t think twice about airing down to 18.

 

I didn’t know you have a two tire air up

 

Yeah, pretty cool setup I just made. I’m really impressed with how fast it is. Filling up one at a time with the twin ARB is holding the ARB back. Also went with 3/8th hose for a big difference.

 

Depends. My 3rd gen I’d air the front down to 25 (a few times 22) and the back to 22 (a few times 20) but I was rocking the stock Michelin’s. (And this is a 2WD so I’d want extra traction in back.)

I’ve got 10 ply MT’s on my 4x4 first gen so I go a bit lower if we’ll be doing slow rock crawling, but not lower if we’ll be blasting through whoops.

 

I don't have beadlocks so that's why I don't want to risk going too low but looks like 20 psi will be fine with E rated tires

 

yes depending on trail and substrate type, as low as 15or 12 psi in soft sand .. just depends

 

I had a BLM ranger tell me I needed to go down to 12 psi to climb a sand hill in Zion. Sometimes a Tundra just isn't meant to go on a trail indeed for Razors and Jeeps.

 

I concur! Airing down is key. Otherwise you’re going to feel everything. Tires become part of the suspension when they are a little more plush. Traction is greatly improved and I feel that it’s easier on all the suspension components as well, like ball joints and bushings. It makes a difference even on a washboard road. Your back and truck will thank you for it.

 

Looks like I made a rookie mistake and have to really air down. I take it there's going to be very minor lost in ground clearance.

It feels like the truck is falling apart when going on washboard roads so I'll take everyone's advice next time.

Appreciate all the great pointers.

 

20-25psi is plenty for 99% of wheeling

Im honestly between 18-22 when offroading

 

Tundras can go anywhere, well where they fit of course. We had a couple rzrs tell us not to try a certain section because tundras had no business and it was super nasty. Guess what we went up with no issues(just a lot of pinstripes)
I was like you at first that didn’t air down and man shit was bumpy lol. Now that I air down it’s not too bad and I’m on a 5” spindle lift.