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Your Firearm Serial Numbers

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by P-Factor, Oct 23, 2019.

  1. Oct 24, 2019 at 6:06 AM
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    And yet, people still question why others Blur plate pics and serial numbers etc

    Every pic I've ever posted luckily does not include a serial number because I'm paranoid
     
  2. Oct 24, 2019 at 6:31 AM
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    Same here. Its not paranoia, its just smart.
     
  3. Oct 24, 2019 at 6:48 AM
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    Florida Police Using FINDER System to Create Lists of Gun Owners:

    Tallahassee, FL-(Ammoland.com)- Earlier this month AmmoLand brought its reader a story of an alleged illegal gun list compiled by the Charlotte County Sheriff's Department using the FINDER system in Florida.

    Pawnbrokers are required to enter information on firearms transactions into the FINDER system. The system transmits the serial number of the firearm along with the make and model to the local sheriffs' department to make sure that the person pawning the gun, did not steal it. A bug in the system also transmitted the names and addresses of the transfers to local law enforcement. The Charlotte County Sheriff’s Department used the information to create a list of gun owners.

    In Florida, it is a felony for law enforcement agencies to keep a list of gun owners under Florida Statute 790.335. The Charlotte County State's Attorney's Office determined that the Charlotte County Sheriff's Department did not violate any laws in compiling the list. After the results of the investigation, Florida Carry asked the Attorney General's Office of the state to carry out an independent investigation.

    AmmoLand has discovered with the help of reporter Andrew Sheets that abuse of the FINDER system appears to extend past Charlotte County into surrounding jurisdictions. It isn’t clear how far the abuses extend across the state.

    Read more:
    https://www.ammoland.com/2019/10/fl...ail&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-03938a710b-21076757
     
  4. Oct 24, 2019 at 6:52 AM
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    Edward Snowden was right, they are watching us more then we know.........
     
  5. Oct 24, 2019 at 7:17 AM
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    The technology that people are addicted to will be used against you. Technology has gone way too far.
     
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  6. Oct 24, 2019 at 7:27 AM
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    Unfortunately it’s probably too late to put the lid back on the box. We’re about 20 years behind in trying to avoid it. I try to be careful, but I also accept that it’s likely too late to really prevent my data from getting out there. You can be as careful as possible, but all it takes is an acquaintance or family member to post something and it’s a done deal.
    Luckily the amount of data that’s being collected is so enormous that unless there’s a specific reason, no one is likely to ever directly look at any one individual. The vast majority is used by advertisers for specific demographics.

    I listened to this last week. It’s really worse than most of us realize.

    https://www.stufftheydontwantyoutoknow.com/podcasts/smart-devices-and-surveillance.htm
     
  7. Oct 24, 2019 at 7:36 AM
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    If your online, your not anonymous, no matter what steps you take.

    A fitting signature for this thread :thumbsup:
     
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  8. Oct 24, 2019 at 7:38 AM
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    That's not a "bug", that's a fracking FEATURE!
     
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    This subject is the main reason I use Apple devices. Not saying they are completely safe by any means, but they are much more difficult to extract data from than android devices are.
    I can pull deleted calls, texts, photos, videos, etc from an Android phone pretty easily. It’s a lot harder and more limited with an iPhone. That open ecosystem that’s the big benefit with Android makes it a breeze for someone who gets access to your phone.
     
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  10. Oct 24, 2019 at 5:31 PM
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    What email services are you using? Gmail/Yahoo suck ass.
     
  11. Oct 24, 2019 at 8:23 PM
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  12. Oct 25, 2019 at 6:39 AM
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    This is basically a ghost registry.

    While the image of your gun doesn’t seem to be that big of a deal, don’t forget that all pictures taken by digital devices are stored with their meta data.

    This meta data identifies what device it was taken on, the date the photo was taken, and the owner of the picture.

    The context of where the image was found can also give more information—think of whose Facebook or Google account uploaded it.

    For further illustration, if you have somebody who is angry at you, they could call the cops or your insurance company and say that they had a gun stolen and give them this Google-sourced serial number.


    It’s generally thought that the person who knows that serial number is likely to be the real owner, after all.


    This creates a paperwork headache that could take a while to untangle, to say the least. If you go to sell your gun, it could show up on a list of stolen guns, for example. Or if a cop looks up your gun at a traffic stop and it comes up as reported stolen, you’re going to have a very bad day.


    Or people making a ghost guns could grab your serial number and put it on their ghost gun.


    Essentially, there are plenty of bad uses for this database already, but the potential uses that we don’t even know yet are even more worrisome.

    https://www.secondamendmentdaily.co...to-gun-registry-complete-with-serial-numbers/
     
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  13. Oct 25, 2019 at 9:57 AM
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    You have a very good point here and exactly why this data can be used for both sides of good and evil. It is very recommended and I have used this myself to keep all original paperwork scanned and encrypted on a storage device at home as well as in a safe. Storing on a cloud is nice if I want to download something for quick easy access but for very personal stuff, the storage device is much safer. If something happened I can retrieve it much quicker than waiting to get the paperwork a agency or gunstore. I dont plan on sitting waiting like a pigeon days or months..
     
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