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Project Thundra - 9 second, 1000 hp daily driven AWD Tundra build

Discussion in '2nd Gen Builds (2007-2013)' started by ViktorG, Oct 11, 2019.

  1. Oct 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM
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    This thread will document my progress with building "Thundra" - a daily driven AWD Tundra sleeper truck capable of running the 1/4 mile in 9.xx seconds.
    To achieve that goal, it will need to make around 1000 whp and be able to deliver it to the ground consistently.
    I started the build earlier this year and have got a bunch of stuff done already, with lots more to come!
    Here is the original video with the background of my truck and the plans I have for it, including what I think it will take to reach the goals I set out for it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqRu5gRGuY
     
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  2. Oct 11, 2019 at 10:03 AM
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    Here are the details of the short block that finally came together after 2+ years of saving money and sourcing/buying parts:

    Toyota 5.7L block bored out by 0.010", line honed and balanced
    Pauter forged X-beam rods
    JE forged pistons at 8.5:1 compression
    JE piston rings
    King bearings
    ARP bolts

    Here is a video of the assembled short block, along with the details on the last two supercharged engines I had in my other Tundra and the carnage one might expect if they start throwing nitrous and/or boost at these things without building up the bottom end first:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAV4tTDWtb8
     
  3. Oct 11, 2019 at 10:18 AM
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    Here are the details on the cylinder heads that went into this build.
    I've spent a lot of time figuring out what parts I can use to build these things up, since nobody makes any aftermarket parts for the tundra heads.
    After a bunch of experimenting I came up with the following upgrades in order to make the most reliable power and high RPM capability:

    Toyota 3UR-FE heads fully ported and polished by me by hand, decking and valve job done by the machine shop
    2UR-GSE (Lexus IS-F) titanium intake valves
    2UR-GSE (Lexus IS-F) stainless steel exhaust valves
    2UR-GSE (Lexus IS-F) valve seats with 5 angle valve job
    2UR-GSE (Lexus IS-F) valve springs (I used the exhaust side springs all around for better valve float control at high RPM)
    2GR-FSE (Lotus Evora custom) titanium valve spring retainers
    Bronze lined valve stem bushings
    New OEM valve stem seals and retainer clips

    Here is a video with the details on the heads before they were sent off to the machine shop for decking and 5 angle valve job:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfC93zYuIKc
     
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    After the parts came back from the machine shop, I was able to finally move forward with the assembly.
    The following video is a time lapse of me assembling the forged motor, removing the old one from the truck, putting the new one in and firing it up for the first time!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fU925BNE5M&t
     
  7. Oct 11, 2019 at 10:46 AM
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    Before the truck was truly ready to run down the 1/4 mile, it needed to go on a bit of a diet (these thing are damn heavy to begin with...)
    Here is a video on how one can trim 400 lbs off a 4-door Tundra or 300 lbs off a 2-door Tundra to prepare it for racing in less than an hour (or to get some better MPGs if you are into that :))

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZ01fdtUJ4
     
  8. Oct 11, 2019 at 10:51 AM
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    Of course, I wanted to go all out with this thing, and taking 300 lbs was not quite enough :)
    The following is called "Weight reduction - ADVANCED", because it is significantly more money and time consuming and eliminates some systems of the truck that most regular people would want to keep.
    My goal is to have a truck that is still comfortable to drive and looks close to stock, so I didn't go as far as stripping the interior or removing the box completely, but I definitely took it to the next level with another 330 lb loss!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh3tsN_1IEo
     
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    Now that I had a built motor capable of taking over 1200 hp without blowing itself to pieces (fingers crossed), I had to add some power to it.
    Dropping the compression to 8.5:1 from the stock 10.2:1, while making the setup much safer, definitely lost a bunch of power, so the first thing to do was add more boost to make it back up.
    I already had the ASP crank pulley on it, which was good for around 2 lbs over stock.
    I've also used the 2.35" ASP blower pulley on my other build, but it only added another 2 pounds of boost, and I needed more than that.
    So I had the machine shop in town make me a custom 2.0" blower pulley for the Thundra.

    Secondly, I wanted to install a direct port nitrous system that would inject the fuel/nitrous mixture past the blower into each individual intake runner.
    The benefits of this are more precise and equal distribution of nitrous as well as no risk of damaging the Teflon coating on the supercharger rotors which some have reported can happen if you spray a bunch of fuel through the blower, such as when using a single port wet nitrous system.
    The video below goes over some details of the direct port nitrous setup and the blower pulley removal/installation tricks:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw7DRS2EzuA&t
     
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    Well, Thundra finally made it to the drag strip with the forged 3UR-FE motor and custom pulley peaking at 14 PSI on the TRD supercharger.
    I didn't have a purge solenoid or bottle heater installed and my nitrous was bogging bad, so I could not spray that night.
    Also I realized that the TRD injectors are maxed out at that boost level and are running at 100% duty cycle past around 4600 RPM, so the AFR was getting dangerously lean up top.
    Time to spend more money... :facepalm:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zqhrNyKp7k
     
  14. Oct 11, 2019 at 12:05 PM
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    After the night out at the track, I realized that something needed to be done in order to address the TRD injectors maxing out.
    What I came up with, was feeding the boost pressure to the fuel pressure regulator reference port to increase the fuel pressure.
    The big problem with the Tundra fuel system is that the truck was not originally designed to run boost from factory.
    The stock setup has the FPR referenced to the atmosphere instead of to the intake manifold and the fuel pressure is always set at a constant 43 PSI.
    The drawback of that is that the more boost you run, the less differential fuel pressure you end up with.
    Think about it - once the boost pressure exceeds 43 PSI, it will be physically impossible to inject fuel into the manifold since the air pressure on the outside of the injector nozzle would be higher than the fuel pressure on the inside.
    Feeding the boost pressure into the FPR reference port allows the engine to maintain the same differential fuel pressure, regardless of how much boost it is running.

    Well, that ended up fixing the high RPM lean condition that I was experiencing, so after driving it for a few days I decided to hit it with a 200 hp shot of nitrous.
    That was a big mistake!
    Turns out not only my injectors were maxed, but the upgraded Aeromotive 325 LPH fuel pump was as well.
    It supplied enough gas to keep the engine happy, but nowhere near enough for the additional 200 hp wet shot.
    Here are the results:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLW30qnayaM
     
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  17. Oct 11, 2019 at 12:40 PM
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    After almost blowing up my very expensive engine due to fuel starvation... ouch... I had to open up the purse strings and dish out some more money on upgrading the fuel system.
    There was always a concern with having to have at least a 1/2 tank of fuel at the track, since when the truck launches, the fuel sloshes to the back of the tank, starving the centrally located in-tank pump.
    I addressed that by installing 1 gallon fuel surge tank in the box of the truck.
    Now, the in-tank pump fills the surge tank, keeping it always full to the top and the overflow returns back to the factory tank.
    At the bottom rear of the surge tank there are 2 fuel pick-ups for the much bigger Aeromotive A1000 external fuel pump.
    That thing feeds the Holley adjustable FPR in the engine bay, which distributes fuel to the factory fuel rails.
    Another shortcoming that I have identified with the Tundra fuel system is that the passenger side fuel rail is fed through the driver side rail, so in essence, once the fuel demand got too high, the driver side injectors would get enough supply, but the passenger side would starve for fuel.
    To address that, I ran an individual fuel line to each of the rails, so now they are being supplied in parallel rather than in series.
    The fuel from the Holley FPR goes back to the surge tank as well, always keeping it full, unless the system is under full load, but as soon as you let off the throttle at the end of the race, it gets topped off.
    This allows for a completely sealed fuel system that passes the ECM evaporative emission system test and the truck can be launched with almost no fuel in the main tank (a potential 150 lbs weight reduction VS full tank :))
    Here are the details on the upgraded fuel system. Unfortunately, as you will see later, this was not the end of my fuel system woes...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM74OFJ4hcQ
     
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    Another little thing I did to the truck was swap the front lowering kit with a different brand.
    I had the Belltech lowering springs on it and they just felt way too soft.
    That kit is designed for stock 2WD trucks, and with my 4x4 setup and the 80 lb supercharger up front, the front would bottom out on dips and bumps on the highway giving me some aggravation.
    I ended up buying the SOS/Tundra racing front lowering kit that allows you to keep the stock springs and struts, while lowering the ride height up to 2.5"
    Here is the video with the install details, definitely much better handling on a front-heavy supercharged 4x4 truck.
    Anyone wanting to buy an almost mint set of Belltech front drop springs for their 2WD, give me a shout ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkgOw9JkqI8&t
     
  19. Oct 11, 2019 at 1:27 PM
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    Well, less than a thousand miles after I've installed the new fuel system (specced based on the recommendations of the local "speed shop" Unlimited Performance and Exhaust) started crapping out.
    The pump started getting noisy, the truck had a hard time starting, and eventually the pressure started dropping under load.
    I took the output line off and measured the output, and the flow has dropped off to less than half of what the pump was supposed to put out.
    And the worst thing was, I found a bunch of metal sparkles in the fuel coming out of the pump, indicating that the internals of it were destroyed.
    I started reading up on high performance fuel systems and realized that I have been misled into believing that the setup I've spent all that money on was correct - it was far from it.
    What I learned was that the main killer of the fuel pump in a high flow system is cavitation, which occurs when the pump sucks in fuel vapor instead of liquid fuel.
    The speed shop convinced me that the -8AN feed line I had going to the pump was plenty even though Aeromotive specified a -10AN.
    They also sold me a sintered bronze fuel filter with around 2 square inches of filter element, which was grossly undersized for the application.
    Lastly, there was no mention of the need for a fuel cooler and/or fuel pump speed controller to prevent the fuel in the tank from getting too hot.
    In the end, the high vacuum at the pump inlet caused by the excessive restriction caused the hot fuel to evaporate, resulting in the pump impeller not getting any cooling and allowing the metal parts to come into contact, destroying the pumping mechanism.
    It was definitely my fault for listening to those chumps at the "speed shop" and a good lesson learned - if you want it done right, do your own research and do it yourself!

    So, after many hours of reading and educating myself, I've built yet another fuel system - hopefully this one will give me the results I've been looking for:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF_n1p438wU&t
     
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    Well, after all the time and money spent on it this year, Thundra ran its quickest 1/4 mile times on the new motor and quickest 1/8 mile, 60 ft time and 0-60 time ever!
    Still has a long way to go to the 9.xx, but getting closer every time....
    Having issues with hitting the rev limiter on the 2-3 upshift, and running really lean in top of 3rd gear, so had to let off the nitrous button every time.
    Not using the big 200 hp shot right now either, still working my way up to it, so I was hitting it with just around a 100 hp squirt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQvEs--snaY&t
     
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    I did manage a 11.9@116 run this year, but that was on a private road (not a racetrack), so I don't have an official timeslip for it, just a screenshot from the Dragy.
    IMG_2051.jpg

    Even though the Dragy has been proven to be accurate within 0.02 of a second VS the track time clock, I wont consider that my official record.
    So, at the end of this year's race season, this is where the truck officially stand now:
    60 ft in 1.68 sec
    0-60 mph in 3.3 sec
    1/8 mile in 7.6 sec
    1/4 mile in 12.1 sec

    I won't be able to do much more to the truck for the next few months, since I just had a reconstructive surgery done on my right wrist, but at least this gave me the time to sit on my ass in front of the computer and create this thread :)

    I'll update as soon as the cast is off and I can wrench on it once again.
    Cheers!
     
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    I would like to come back and watch all this - seems very interesting.
     
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