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Tundra yearly sales

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by mini2, Aug 26, 2019.

  1. Aug 26, 2019 at 6:16 PM
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    Reliability is a big factor in considering toyota. The satisfaction that every time you turn the key and it will start and run is one of the biggest factor in considering toyota.

    I drive a lot 30 k at least a year , I burned my hands with Ford had Lincoln Navigator had 100 k mile warranty on it ,101k miles engine overheated left me stranded , spent 6800 on crate motor , still engine light was on , they couldn’t figure out what was wrong changed o2 sensors still the light won’t go off . Same time had Toyota Highlander with 200k miles still running strong( only had spent 500 on regular maintenance) had bought used one for 17k traded it in for Honda Accord ( totaled by son) for 11 k.

    Currently have Jeep Wrangler ( wifey dream ride ) and tundra about 25k miles on both bought around same time , wrangler has been in dealership for about 7 times for various issues like wandering steering , dash board lit up multiple times for no reason, spent nearly 300 on various dealership recommended maintenances.

    For tundra just oil change and tire rotation then good to go.

    My son’s Camry 2016 , about 76k miles only oil change and tire rotation service.


    It’s just toyota reliability is above and beyond other manufacturers.
     
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    We’ve had 5 Rams, 1 Titan, 7 mustangs, and many more in 23 years. The oldest was a 1999 4runner with 188,000 on it, ran strong no issues. Drove that coast to coast and that was Toyota reliability. Was hit head on in a Carolla and walked away that was Toyota build quality. Now have a 2019 tundra platinum again for Toyota quality. Will hold for years.
     
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  3. Aug 26, 2019 at 6:53 PM
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    It’s margin. The tooling for the tundra paid for itself looooong ago, so Toyota can now focus on optimizing a known process. The big 3 shake things up every four years just to stay competitive, which means that they never have time to work out the bugs.
     
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  4. Aug 26, 2019 at 7:32 PM
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    Exactly. I’ve seen a lot of comments on the various forums of waiting to buy the new 2021. I personally would rather buy the last year of a model than the first year. I’ll take the perfected one rather than the prototype one.
     
  5. Aug 26, 2019 at 7:36 PM
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    The only reason Toyota sales numbers arent higher is they don't wear out.
    :muscleflexing: no need to replace
     
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  6. Aug 26, 2019 at 7:40 PM
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    My first year 2nd Gen 07 ran flawlessly for 12 years other than the $20 power steering pressure sensor I replaced.
     
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  7. Aug 26, 2019 at 7:49 PM
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    Toyota never advertised much either, never for the Land Cruiser or FJ. They were content with next to nothing sales numbers. I’m told my 2013 FJ manual is worth what I paid for it..My 1992 Toyota extended cab was bought new for 13k and sold to a Toyota dealer 4 years later, with 44K on the clock, for 13K. This is my first Tundra and I really like it!
     
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  8. Aug 27, 2019 at 5:20 AM
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    My first Toyota and first Tundra, 2019, is now 2 weeks old. My first “Crewmax” sized truck. Always have had the “double cab” size truck. Absolutely my favorite vehicle ever owned - this new Tundra. Hope I can still say that 10 years from now.

    With all that said, my previous 2009 Chevy Silverado, purchased new, had 276,000 plus miles on it and was still running great when I traded it on this Tundra. Basic maintenance. Always full synthetic oil changes (Mobile 1 Full Synthetic). Most expensive was the upper and lower ball joint replacements I did on the front end. That was it. My 1999 Ford F-150 Lariat had 260,000 plus miles on it and was still running great when I traded it on the Chevy. Basic Maintenance with full synthetic oil (Castrol Full Synthetic) changes was it.

    Learnings - when you are approaching 300,000 miles with a Chevy or Ford, trade it? Don’t know anyone with a Dodge who has gone that far. Take care of your vehicle and it will take care of you. Damn I love this Tundra!
     
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  9. Aug 27, 2019 at 5:30 AM
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    The sales numbers would make sense if compared to sales numbers from the big 3. Perhaps their sales are also flat?
     
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    Since it was first built in 1999, the Tundra has always been a low production truck when compared to the big 3. Toyota has yet to produce more than 200,000 trucks in a single year.
     
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    Maybe in North America they are not the top selling, but overseas they are everywhere, maybe not so much the Tundra and Tacoma, but the Hilux and every other vehicule that Toyota makes is like a ratio of 10 to 1 here. Even the Hilux TRD Pro model that I took for a spin is something else, that thing would sell like hot cakes back home.
     
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  12. Aug 27, 2019 at 5:40 AM
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    Toyota Tundra down over 1% over last year. Chevy and GM truck sales almost 12% down over last year. Dodge is up, moving into the number 2 spot over Chevy. Ford still number one by probably double, but don’t know if they are growing or declining in sales over last year?
     
  13. Aug 27, 2019 at 6:47 AM
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    Interview with Bob Carter, Toyota’s executive vice president of sales;

    Tundra sales will never catch up to those of the Ford F-150, Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra, and Ram 1500. “We have no aspirations, no plans to compete at that volume” Carter added. Can we do better than we're doing today? Absolutely.”
     
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  14. Aug 27, 2019 at 7:24 AM
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    And why I now have a Toyota, considering my good luck with Chevy and Ford. I did a lot of research before my purchase, and while the Tundra has ranked low on the totem pole of trucks (read in creature comforts here) for some years now, they, the Tundra, have repeatedly ranked number 1 in one category for ten years straight - RELIABILITY. Many Tundras have surpassed the half million mile mark and a few the million mile mark. Damn I love my Tundra!
     
  15. Aug 27, 2019 at 9:43 AM
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    I see this comment a lot and find it interesting. I made a point to look at every pickup on the market when I went to the Atlanta Auto Show this year and after reviewing them I thought they all pretty much looked the same on the inside. This went for SUV's too. Especially after you jump in all of them fairly quickly.

    I understand Toyota doesn't offer the latest tech but I don't feel like it "looks" dated.

    In fact, I took one of our Manager's for a ride in my '16 Tundra and he has a '17 C7 Vette and thought my interior looked more modern than his Vette. Interesting perspective.
     
  16. Aug 27, 2019 at 9:49 AM
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    I get a truck that feels like a car and has balls.

    Not sure why I would want something else.
     
  17. Aug 27, 2019 at 1:53 PM
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    I have no interest in the gimmicky bullshit the big 3 pride themselves on and absolutely destroy your wallet for. Adaptive cruise, lane departure nonsense, auto start/stop, AFM etc etc.

    A power bump (430hp/470ft lbs) out of a 6L DOHC, 10 speed trans and a Ram’ish interior....take my $60k Toyota!
     
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    I forgot about a Tundra tailgate is simply a tailgate. No funky steps hidden in it. No opening up sideways. No automatic closing. It’s a simple hinge with a latch. The automatic latch lock on mine is almost too much.
     
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    Trucks (to include the Tundra) are important to Toyota, but certainly those sales #'s comprise a small portion of its overall strategy in North American and throughout the world. Something to keep in mind: the big 3 domestic OEM's have a larger market focus on trucks largely because they lost much of their market share of cars to...wait for it...foreign companies. You're a lot more likely to see an European, Japanese or Korean car on the road versus an American one because the big 3 screwed the pooch and lost a lot of faith with the general consumer. Trucks and SUV's are pretty much the only market share where the big 3 have little to no serious competition from foreign companies, so of course that is where they will focus their efforts. Whereas Toyota is very much a car company, that has some focus on trucks as well.

    As for the Tundra lagging in fuel economy and creature comforts: the Tundra's deficiency in fuel economy isn't that great if you compare real world numbers (not EPA numbers). Creature comforts: the high-end Tundra's seem just as luxurious as the high-end F-150's and Silverado's.

    Most truck buyers trade in every few years. But, reliability is still important to a good number of owners who keep their truck for 5 years or more. And that reliability is largely the reason for the Tundra's resale advantage.

    I also don't know why some fool would choose to buy a brand new F-150 Platinum over a slightly used Tundra out of concern for "fuel costs." That person is still going to lose $10k-$15k in the first few years of ownership, which easily outweighs the difference in fuel costs. The fuel cost argument is often used by people of have very little understanding of the ownership costs associated with a vehicle. Most people in most income brackets SHOULD NOT be buying brand new cars and trucks...but they do so anyway because they think with their emotions and the neglect to run the numbers behind their decision.
     
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    The deal I created for myself at the dealership on my new Tundra felt exceptional. A similar big 3 product would require a $20k markdown. Probably wouldn’t happen...maybe $14k in Dec or Jan. That $6k difference buys a lot of fuel over time. And having thoroughly researched, sat in, and drove all of them, none felt or drove better than the Tundra. At 6’3” and 265, I’m hard to please when it comes to comfort. My dad and brother both at 6’4” have no problem getting in front or back. Our hair brushes the ceiling in back and that is ok because the rear legroom on the Crewmax is spectacular. A 6’4” cousin also owns a Tundra. Now we have another 6’4” cousin looking at the Tundra possibility. My brother owns a Toyota Landcruiser (with 210,000 plus miles on it) which is extremely comfortable also. I see the Tundra as a 4-way win (cost, comfort, quality, long term reliability). The Tundra takes a back seat to nobody.
     
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    Agree with this. I'm 6'4" about 280 and my son is 6'7". He now drives my 2013 Tundra and that was my excuse to buy a new one(at the time, 2018). Big guys have limited options.
     
  22. Sep 6, 2019 at 5:22 AM
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    Somewhere in Japan there are Toyota engineers experimenting with all sorts of engine types for new models of Toyota vehicles including the Tundra, Tacoma and Four Runner. Their financial department knows every detail down to the cent of what everything costs using algorithms generated by AI and IBM computers and forecasts down to how much each piece will cost next year and five years from now. You need to understand that somewhere they have a 5.7 engine running 24/7/365 with zero lubrication or oil in it for stress testing and it’s been running like that for years straight. Every day the lead engineer walks by and says until your new design can do that don’t even come in my office.
     
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    Bought my Tundra after having a 2010 Chevy Silverado that kept experiencing trouble from the AFM (Active Fuel Management) where it shuts down cylinders. Great idea, but poor concept. Worked fine until just past warranty period. Truck would go into limp mode and ran like it was only on three cylinders. Experienced that so many time, that I said enough. My deciding factor was to go talk to a service tech in a Toyota dealership who knew these trucks. Short conversation later, I was up front purchasing a new Tundra. Only thing I have done so far is normal maintenance on my truck. Oil changes and filter changes. Very reliable. Love this truck! White SR5 4x4
     
  24. Sep 6, 2019 at 8:05 AM
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    Being a new Tundra owner, I have noticed when I see older Gen Tundras driving around that I get happy and wave or honk. Not trying to start the Jeep thing by any means, but more of a “I know what you know and nobody else gets it” thing.
     
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    Agree with “Chinadog” about tall people and one critical element, electronic seats both driver and passenger. Standard manual seats in the Tundra don’t favor tall people...the view is down. His top end Platinum and 1794 favor tall people with electronic driver and passenger seats, as does my Limited. Another nice thing the Tundra beats the competition in, surprisingly, is hip room. That is good for everyone.
     
  26. Sep 6, 2019 at 7:53 PM
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    Mine will show up in the Aug numbers. I considered and drove the F150 and the Titan. Also looked at the Silverado.
     
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    This. All the Toyota salesman talked about was reliability. Then when I talked to the Toyota finance guy it was all about how I needed the extended warranty because of all the electronics.

    #irony# #bullshit#
     
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