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front cv axle play.... needle bearing issue?

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by VaStormTundra, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. Apr 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM
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    Ive done some research and found the tsb about the vibration in the gas pedal being related to a needle bearing in the front diff. ill post a video of what i have going on and the question is: is this also a symptom of the worn needle bearing needing to be replaced with the aftermarket bushing and would the bushing likely be the best place to start with this? Or is there a little more going on here?

     
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  2. Apr 12, 2019 at 2:41 PM
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    No input??? Anybody?
     
  5. Apr 14, 2019 at 8:23 AM
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    I would definitely do the bushing upgrade,it took the slop out of my cv on my 13 RW
     
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  6. Apr 14, 2019 at 2:30 PM
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    I had alot of problems with the steering wheel shakes on my tacoma. It was bad. Tried many options, nothing worked.
    I did notice alot of slop where the axle goes into the diff so I added a bushing from East coast gear supply and it made a world of difference! The truck actually feels safe to drive again!
     
  7. Apr 16, 2019 at 8:30 AM
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    Thanks for your replies! I'm going to do the bushing and report back. Hopefully this solves it. I haven't see anything in my research about doing both sides... Does the bushing upgrade fit on both sides? If not do they make a bushing that will do the other side?
     
  8. Apr 16, 2019 at 8:33 AM
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    It only fits the drivers side!
     
  9. Apr 16, 2019 at 9:24 AM
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    Do they make a similar part for the pass side? The pass side isnt too bad but i dont like seeing any slop in my driveline. haven't seen anything in my searches but stuff like that tends to hide out until the question is asked.
     
  10. Apr 16, 2019 at 9:37 AM
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    ecgs does not make a passenger side and I’m not sure if anyone does!
     
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  11. Apr 16, 2019 at 12:46 PM
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    Alright, I reckon I'll just replace whatever bearing is in there now and hope that takes care of it. Thanks for all of your help, I'll post up a little ditty once I do the bushing and bearing to let y'all know if that solves the issue.
     
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  12. May 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM
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    Any update?
     
  13. Jun 22, 2019 at 6:18 PM
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    Im with vastorm on this one....replaced the driverside needle bearing with ecgs bushing and the diff cyclic growl still there. Replaced both hub bearings and driver cv too...still same but slightly less noticable.

    Upon further inspection, passenger side bearing seems to have juss a tad little play than driver side with the ecgs bushing. I am really thinking its the passenger side tube bearing with that 1/8 play making this untraceable cyclic growl.

    Vastorm, any update?
     
  14. Jul 17, 2019 at 6:48 AM
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    any updates to this? i've noticed an increasing amount of grinding or vibration in my gas pedal, too, and to a lesser degree, my steering wheel. It seems to be worse while turning. It doesn't shake, it's more like a grinding feeling, and it isn't constant. It ebbs and flows at like 1 second intervals. I don't have much, if any, play in my cv axles, though, so i'm thinking mine may be a steering rack issue.
     
  15. Jul 20, 2019 at 4:56 PM
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    I don' understand how you could get feedback from the gas pedal. It's fly by wire.
     
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  16. Jul 20, 2019 at 8:26 PM
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    I don't understand either. I'm not super knowledgeable about these trucks. I just know that since I leveled it, and subsequently put 37s on it, I've noticed a grinding feeling in the pedal and steering wheel that wasn't there before, and *seems* to be getting worse, especially when turning.
     
  17. Jul 24, 2019 at 11:26 AM
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    I'm playing the same game with a relatively stock sequoia of the same vintage. light vibes at 75+ felt in the floor and consequently the gas pedal.

    This truck's CV boots are torn, so I'm considering new shafts. Apparently Toyota thinks they're whittled out of gold by unicorns, I was quoted almost $800. With all the tundras on the road I figured there must be some better aftermarket options?
     
  18. Jul 25, 2019 at 4:51 AM
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    Look at 1aauto,I’ve used them for years and have never had any issues with they’ parts!
     
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    The toyota crawler community (my background) identified alot of vendors that source their parts from japan or even other Toyota suppliers. Moog for example use to source 555 Landcruiser, made in japan, tie rod ends.

    I was hoping to get more details about the approved CV vendors here. But it looks like its Toyota or play your luck.
     
  20. Aug 22, 2019 at 9:38 AM
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    Sorry for the delayed response but I had a whole full on shit storm hit me starting mid May and I'm finally coming out of it. I got the bushing and began replacing it last night. Old bearing came out no problem, axle seal came out no problem. Putting everything back together is where I'm having issues... Here are the steps I've taken already and I'll ask some questions too.

    After getting everything apart I:
    1)installed new axle seal
    2)installed ecgs bushing
    3)attempted to reinstall CV axle.

    This is where the problems started and here are my questions

    I can't push the axle into the diff. I tried banging on the lip to get the c clip to go in for like 2 hours and couldn't get it in. Anyone got advice on that?

    How do I know when the bushing is in far enough? I drove it in until it wouldn't go any further as indicated in the ecgs video

    What happens if I remove the c clip to facilitate installing the shaft? It's held in place by the axle nut so it should hurt right? Or wrong?

    PLEASE HELP!!!
     
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    Dude I spent about an hour looking for CV axle install videos and didn't find a single one that answered my questions. Thanks for posting this one.
     
  23. Aug 22, 2019 at 12:47 PM
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    So I've determined the bushing is in correctly but I still can't get the damn CV axle in. I need help!
     
  24. Aug 27, 2019 at 4:05 AM
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    Finally got it in there Friday morning...

    Instead of using a race driver to drive the bushing in, I used a socket that was sized exactly the same size as the bushing. This would have been alright except that the socket would move slightly while driving it in and caused a bur to form around the surface. I ended up gingerly filing the bur off and then using a heavy rubber mallet used for installing hardwood flooring to drive the axle in. Thanks for the replies.
     
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    Approximately 2000 miles after the bushing install I still have the slop in the CV axle. I'm replacing the CV axle and both front hub assemblies next to see if that tightens her up to within a reasonable tolerance. I did notice a bit of play that indicates wear on the wheel bearing but the CV axle is still wiggling at the front diff..... Anyone have any other suggestions or advice? Also, what brand wheel bearings is everyone using? I'm getting ready to begin the research for that but I saw on Rock Auto that they have Beck arnley as a standard replacement... And I don't remember the economy brand, I don't do economy parts . Thanks for any input!
     
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    Hey VaStormTundra, thx for sharing. I have the same issue but have not done the bushing upgrade on it. Do you think I should do it? Any thing new on your end?
     
  27. Oct 2, 2019 at 9:27 AM
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    It wouldn't hurt to replace it. It's fairly inexpensive, just time consuming. All total it took me about 7-8 hours but I had some issues that set me back.
     
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    Good to know. Thx. Question for you, do you have a lift kit? or Leveling kit installed? I have 3in Leveling, I am guessing that's why my bearing wore out? Just guessing based on what other people are saying. Are you sill having issues with yours after you replaced it?
     
  29. Oct 10, 2019 at 8:35 PM
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    Hah...i replaced both side wheel bearing hubs to include the driver side cv axle and did that bushing thang...tolerance is tighter but i still have that 'woo woo woo' comin from da front end.

    Was thinkin the bushing would tighten things up and that was the source of my sound. Nope its still there and imma just have to live widd it. Some folks are saying diff bearings but i aint gunna go that deep into it....just made sure theres enuff gear oil in the pumkin and run it.
     
  30. Oct 11, 2019 at 7:35 AM
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    I had a 4Runner making a woo woo sound that gradually got worse. When I finally checked it out the pinnion was losing up. Replaced bearing, seal and new crush sleeve all was good again
     

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