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Recommend a tire

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by akhero, Aug 2, 2019.

  1. Aug 2, 2019 at 10:58 PM
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    I have a 2005 tundra DC Need new tires currently have BF Goodrich KO2 285/75R16

    Only use the truck for work and pleasure no offroading. Looking for tires that would help with the gas milage

    was thinking to downsize to 265/75R16 to something like this Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S

    What do you guys think would the 265 be too small?
     
  2. Aug 3, 2019 at 3:41 AM
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    I agree with the above.
    Doing a quick search at discount tires for your current size, there's a lot of options.

    I'm guessing regular truck tires for highway driving is your preference?
     
  3. Aug 3, 2019 at 4:36 AM
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    Michelin Defender LTX or A/T 2.

    I've got 265/70 on mine with a lift and it looks fine.

    I put a set of Defenders on the wife's Durango last fall and they are very good in all types of weather and they're wearing very well.
     
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    Based on your mandate of work/pleasure with no off roading, I’d recommend the Michelin 285/75/r16 Defender LTX of which size I’ve been using for about 15 years in the Michelin family.

    Quiet, good all season, good in snow/sand/tow/haul and they handle nicely. Tread life is pretty long, as well.

    Keep in mind this size does slightly rub the inside frame if you turn real hard into parking spaces, etc. of which you can avoid by compensation. Its a heavier/larger tire and your MPG may drop a bit.

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  5. Aug 3, 2019 at 12:55 PM
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    Improving mpg with tire size is very complex and rarely effective in practice. The theory goes that a taller tire will revolve fewer times to travel the same linear distance due to it's increased circumference vs a shorter tire, thus giving the effect of lowering your rear gear ratio. Instead of 3.08 gears spinning a 265 tire, you transmute those 3.08 gears into 2.73's using a 285 tire. The math says yes, better mpg, but physics in the real world says, eh, maybe.

    The taller tire will be usually be heavier, require more energy to start it rolling from rest (think of pushing a giant 6 foot tall farm tractor tire in a parking lot vs your truck tire. It's taller sure, and once rolling has more inertia, but how hard do you have to grunt to start it rolling vs pushing your 265 with one hand? That extra grunt is extra energy in the form of gasoline.), perhaps have more ground resistance depending on sidewall ratio and tire footprint, type of tire, tread design and rubber compound also influence mpg's.

    Tire flex at the moment of interface with the road eats a lot of energy as well. Remember the tire transforms from a round tube to essentially a square box when it is squeezed between the pavement and the rim. That why inflating your tires to max air pressure does yield some mpg gains. The max air pressure tire flexes less, not to mention a max air pressure tire usually has a smaller contact patch. But at the cost if wearing the center tread our earlier, thus needed to buy tires more frequently, thus offsetting the incremental mpg gain from max inflation.

    So TL/DR, tires within a couple of sizes 265-285 have negligible impact on mpg, and actually, tire brand, design, and rubber composition probably have a greater impact on mpg in the positive direction. It's easy to f-up your mpg's with 33x12 mudders as many here will attest to. But mpg improvements, not so much.
     
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  6. Aug 3, 2019 at 1:33 PM
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    Wow thx for all the great reply!

    Truck is stock height king coilovers in the front!
     
  7. Aug 4, 2019 at 5:00 PM
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    I like the falken wild peak AT3's,

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    I looked at that too! I like the Cooper discoverer at3 or the AT3 4s I really dont need an agressive tire i rather save gas!
     
  9. Aug 4, 2019 at 6:51 PM
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    I've had a number of sets of Cooper AT3 tires on various vehicles. It is a good all around, reasonably priced tire. About 35k miles was the average tread life.
     
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    10 ply at3 cooper will last you a long time
     
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    Can’t say enough good things about my Michelin Defender LTX M/S. They’re quiet, smooth, look great and wear like steel. It’s all the tire I need for snow, ice, rain and a little bit of off road. 70K mile tread life as well. Consumer Reports estimated tread life at 85,000 miles in their tests which is really impressive IMO and makes it worth the few extra bucks you’ll spend up front.
     
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    I have the wildpeaks and like them. I will get a set for my jeep this fall. I am going to get cooper at3 4s on my wife's car soon. My biggest concern is snow. Not sure if you get snow. Those are my picks. Gas mileage will suck in all of my cars. (tundra, Jeep, GX 460)
     
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    Another vote for Michelin defenders. Best tire I have every had. Great tread wear, they lastforever, traction is well above average in all conditions, gas mileage is as good as the stock tires even though I went from 32s to 33s. Definitely worth the extra money when buying. They don't look aggressive but outperform pretty much any AT tire. These sound like exactly what you need
     
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    My wife's gx 460 had the Michelin defenders stock. I think they are the ltx. M/s. They have been good tires. She has 55000 miles on them. They have some wear left in them.
     
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    I had been running the Cooper Discoverer AT3 tires for the past 4 years on my '02 and I can not recall a worse tire for slipping and fishtailing. The slightest incline from a stopped position and she would spin. The slightest dew on the road in the morning and she would spin and fishtail. It rains nearly every day from Sept. to June, and she was constantly sliding around, even with four large bags of sand in the bed.

    I bailed on them recently, acquiring a full set of Falken Wildpeak A/T3W all terrain 265/70R16 after reading many favorable reviews, and I couldn't be happier with the ride and handling. The Tundra is now glued to the road and I have experienced zero slipping in the rain, and with the sand bags removed. She is quiet and the ride is smoother, like I said, I couldn't be happier. Cost wise, I had Discount Tires meet Amazon's low price, plus I received a veteran's rebate of $50 that I wasn't expecting. I highly recommend both the tire and the installer. Oh, and the tire is also snow capable, and wears the industry's emblem signifying it.
     
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    I have a set on my 06 and I love them.
     
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    I’m running the MasterCraft Courser HSXTour which is made by Cooper the 18 inch I had was very quiet comfortable and ran well in the snow and on wet roads. I’ve had the 20 inch for about a month - maybe 600 miles and these are comfortable as well. Haven’t run them in the rain B1E2FD73-2C0C-498A-8E87-BF7D149361AE.jpg
     
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    I’ll be trying Falken most likely when my time comes. Still rocking stock Michelin’s. Honestly those have performed well. Rain, snow and off-road.
     
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    I weighted my selection criteria heavily towards an all terrain tire that was the best tire available for wet roads, based on reviews and testimonies of owners. My next criteria was icy roads, followed by snow. The Falken Wildpeak A/T3W, in my research, came in first in all three categories. It has also proven to be no slouch on dry roads and in rocky terrain, though I will admit there are others quite capable in these areas as well, some that may even beat the Falken. But in my estimation, no tire performs as well overall as it does. When you add in a decent 55,000 mile warranty and low price, it is clearly a tire to consider as the front runner, IMHO.

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    A great do everything well tire on decent stock rims, though no match for Cacoleman2014's beautiful rims. I'll be working on that one...
     

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