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Wheel/tire size decision to make...advice?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by smalls_ADV78, Aug 18, 2019.

  1. Aug 18, 2019 at 5:57 PM
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    smalls_ADV78

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    So I picked up a new to me 2017 4wd XSP model. Love it! It came with the XSP trim level 20" Vision wheels I believe are +50, a 3/2 Ready Lift spacer lift, and some worn out 285/55/20 BFGs.

    Because I need to get new tires, I am trying to nail this right the first time. I have 2 options I'm looking for answers on;

    1) Run the 20" Vision wheels with;
    285/65/20
    1.25" spacers

    Or

    2) Run new wheels, 18" with;
    295/70/18
    no spacers

    I've realized a few things which led me to this decision. 18" have a few perks in my opinion
    a. no spacers (not that big of deal to me I guess)
    b. tires are cheaper
    c. 18s prob better for off-road (change my mind I dunno??)

    The 18" tires are about $400 cheaper, plus no spacers saves $300 so = $700 savings difference. New wheels are about $12-1300. So technically if I decide to go with new wheels I would be spending only $600 more than what I plan to do now with 20s and spacers (based on savings). But I do like the way 20s look with a lift....

    What would you do?
    Run the +50 offset Vision 20" with 1.25" spacers?
    or
    Run 18" wheels with more like +20 offset without spacers?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  2. Aug 18, 2019 at 5:58 PM
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    T-Rex266

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    I’m a fan of smaller wheels
     
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  3. Aug 18, 2019 at 6:02 PM
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    Tundra234

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    Go with the 18's. I have a Readylift 3/2 and run 285/70/18's on a 0 offset with Bushwacker flares.

    Readylift 3F 2R.jpg
     
  4. Aug 19, 2019 at 6:36 PM
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    As for offset I realized today that I would likely need an increase in offset to allow for fender flares that are on the truck already. So I orig was thinking a +25 but now thinking a +18 will get me flush and maybe a tad out.

    Still debating the whole 20"vs18" and reading up.
     
  5. Aug 19, 2019 at 7:41 PM
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    My 0 offset is just a tad outside of the flares.
     
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    George, what tire pressure do you have your tires at. Are those the Nitto Ridge Grappler. Thanks
     
  7. Aug 26, 2019 at 4:36 AM
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    So I ended up sticking with my OEM XSP package 20in wheels (Vision). They have a +50 offset and I added Spidertrax 1.25" spacers. Added 285/65/20. This will be the setup for now. I really needed new tires asap so just went ahead with it. I think I'd like to change out the wheels next time and go with an 18". Maybe I'll sell these OEM wheels down the road.

    Thanks for everyone's feedback. Tundra234, your truck looks great!

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  8. Aug 26, 2019 at 5:12 AM
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    Yes they are Ridge Grapplers. I run mine at 44 front and rear.
     
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  9. Aug 26, 2019 at 5:23 AM
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    I'd go with 18s. Better for offroad and I think they look more balanced. An 18 with a bigger tire rather than a 20 with a smaller tire is how I roll.:thumbsup:
     
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  10. Aug 26, 2019 at 5:29 AM
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    Do you want new wheels? The xsp wheels are pretty slick if you want to save the money
     
  11. Aug 26, 2019 at 6:43 AM
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    Thanks, no issues with TPMS, i iust recently got mine, and they had it pressured at 70.
     
  12. Aug 26, 2019 at 7:12 AM
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    No issues with TPMS. 70 is way too high.
     
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  13. Aug 26, 2019 at 7:15 AM
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    Thanks George, i will definitely drop it way down when i get home tonight .
     
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    Just so you know, if you are going from a P-rated tire (which is typically what is on for OEM) to an E-rated (LT) tire, the E-series tire will need a higher PSI to keep up with the similar load characteristics of the P-series. For example, a P-tire @ 35psi might be rated for 2200lbs of load. To get the same load of 2200lbs on your new e-tire you will have to look in the tables and it will probably be something along the lines of 45-47psi (as an example). I went from a stock p-tire @ 275/55/20 (30psi on the door jam, but running 35psi day to day) to an LT e-tire @ 275/70/18. I had to knock up my pressure to 45psi to keep up with the load ability @ 35psi on my stock p-tires.

    Toyo has a table to do the conversion:

    https://www.toyotires.com/media/2125/application_of_load_inflation_tables_20170203.pdf
     
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    Good call. I echoed that about 10 times last week in various threads. :thumbsup:
     
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  16. Aug 28, 2019 at 1:45 PM
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    SHEW !! 70 lbs = rough ride/ bad tire wear

    That alt to ride like a covered wagon
    :facepalm:
     
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  17. Aug 28, 2019 at 3:47 PM
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    That’s what i say, they said the max is at 80 psi for my tires, they set at 70. Yes it was rough on the way home. I indeed up dropping it.
     
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