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Not necessarily true. A lot of 5.0L sales are fleet sales (probably the majority) where MPG means less and less moving parts generally means less issues to most fleet managers. The 2.7L gets far better gas mileage than the 5.0L, I've put 80,000 on the 5.0L & 30,000 on the 2.7L doing roughly the same work and there's no comparison. I don't have any experience with the 3.5L, but have heard that it disappoints mileage wise.

 

The exhaust note will sound like a mini van but I do wonder what kind of power increase can be had with just a tune. The power gains might tempt me but i dont rent my vehicles and dont trust turbo over the long term.

I'll stick with my N/A 5.7 but it will be interesting to see what Toyota comes out with.

 

Hard pass on that. When I bought my Tundra I checked several trucks, including the Tacoma, all 6 cyl models. None of them impressed me. Add to that the maintance problems unique to turbocharged engines and it equals a whole lot of no. (I’ll never trust a turbo after driving a 2.0 tc VW. There was a noise and then it became, briefly, an external combustion engine)

 

after watching that video it would make sense for Toyota to choose the new the engines used in the LS 500 and 500h. It would match the way they're running the rest of their core vehicles. This would mean we'd have two choices... a V6 Twin turbo and a V6 hyrbid (no turbo)... they give the same option with the camry, avalon, highlander, corolla, and the Rav 4.

Honestly, the way I see most guys drive their trucks (street queens) they should be driving hybrids anyway.


my 12' will easily get me to 2024 or 2025, by that time we should have a good idea of how these trucks perform. Honestly, I think we need to give toyota the benefit of the doubt. Reliability has always been their game, they're not gonna ditch that philosophy now. Better fuel economy has always been a desire of the general tundra drivers...we have to assume they'll still remain the most reliable full size truck on the market.

 

There are a lot of complex systems in Hybrid design and V6 Turbo just sounds like a 100K and done engine to me. Will lower resale. Prices will go way up. Offroad modifiers will find mods difficult/impossible with hybrid. I really hate Turbos, give me an efficient V8 any day of the week.

Will I have to switch to FORD TO GET A V8?

I guess I'll keep my 2018 Tundra forever. Or I'll buy an early F250, mod it up, and keep it forever.

DOUBLE RANT ON: Other than the gas mileage, these are not changes that really benefit the customer. Instead, the changes will mainly benefit Toyota in order to meet the F'ing goofy Government requirements. Gov. requirements, I remind you, that are designed to eventually eliminate the types of vehicles we all love in favor of small wimpy cars that drive themselves only where THEY allow you to go. That's the Gov direction. It's all about control and we will pay for it. :RANT OFF

Ask yourself, would Toyota be doing this if the Government weren't forcing them too? With less Gov. interference we'd have a high efficiency V8 with improved gas mileage, and high reliability.

Who's going to be able to fix a hybrid truck if it breaks on the Rubicon, or in the desert somewhere.

If you are a guy who just likes trucks and doesn't necessarily need one for work this isn't good news. The future is dim for trucks.

 

I'm happy as a toddler at a strip bar with the supercharger HP and torque, I do like the Rivian but am disappointed that Ford is getting in the back back door with it. Hopefully the oncoming electric cars/trucks will drive the price of gas down in the future.

 

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Plenty of Ford Ecoboosts have gotten over 100k....the thing with Fords, its just a little more troublesome to get them there....but wasn't this the case even before they had the ecoboost? Same with Chevy? Same with Dodge?

I have to believe toyota, like always, will do it better than everyone else.

 

Toyota got the hybrid technology pretty good imo. Look at all the old Prius still on the road. Many Prius cabs with over 200K miles here in L.A.

 

I think you are right, in the sense that if any company can build a reliable hybrid its Toyota. HOWEVER, my experience is that turbo Toyotas have not been ANY more reliable than other manufacturers turbo engines. I'm not excited about a less reliable truck, if they want to make hybrid road going vehicles and people want to buy them that's fine...just not crazy about Hybid Turbo trucks.

 

Toyota needs a diesel option for the tundra

 

Try facts...It won't happen, autos are only a part of the price of petroleum. Most of the oil is used as fuel oils for heating and electricity generation; asphalt and road oil; and feed stocks for the making of chemicals, plastics, and synthetic materials. Even if cars use less oil, the demand is still increasing worldwide.

The US could go full lunatic AOC on cars and it wouldn't make a dent in the price of petroleum worldwide, because transportation still needs to happen, and if prices drop demand will increase. Perhaps remedial classes economics and critical thinking are in order here.

 

Geez man, go easy on him.

 

They have a 8spd in the landcruiser with the 5.7 and it didn’t help. Keep in mind that the V8s that get good gas mileage only do so because they shutdown half the motor on the highway.

 

Aerodynamics have a lot more to do with mpg than engines.

Toyota kinda new answer in the 70’s. A mini truck that is as strong as a domestic half ton. Then they realized that the American market just wanted size. So we now have full size trucks from Toyota with similar frame strength to an 81 mini truck

 

Haha when will then be now....soon


I’m actually hoping they make the bed gen tundra smaller like the gen 1. I really miss that size, it was absolutely perfect and I regret not keeping my 05. The rumors are the next gen tundra and taco will share platform. Which makes you wonder if the next gen “tundra” is a 1 ton truck and the bulk of their sales will be a upsized “Tacoma”?

 

You're all missing the big opportunity here. Buy the hybrid then switch in a twin turbo 5.7L.

600+ hp/tq and supplemental electric bonus when you hammer the loud pedal.

It's so simple. Ready....go.

 

I would get one.

The way I see it turbo V6s make sense. Toyota already do turbos well in the lexas line, so moving that tech over to the Toyota line makes sense.
As others have said turbo smaller engines are here to stay.

 

“They’ve gone... plaid!”
I had a 07 Tahoe for a while and it rarely turned its cylinders off also... it still got 14mpg just like my lifted Tundra...

 

I’m ready ! The v8 sound isn’t that important to me , lol

 

Fixed it

 

You forgot abot my ship that burns about 12,000 usg a day. And I am one of 9 in my fleet

 

Oh man, could you imagine! Fun stuff right there!

 

We can call it "Tundras part 2, The Search for more Money"

 

It only said the top of the line model. Didn't say the whole fleet was getting this. Sounds like there will still be options for people wanting the traditional v8.

 

I Hope so! I plan on keeping my truck at least another 10 to 15 years. If they change power plants on pretty much all trucks across the board, I imagine we won’t have much choice but to embrace the six.

 

Toyota can keep any sort of V6, turbos, hybrid, or any other economy non-sense they have planned for the Tundra.

I couldn't give two turds about saving 5 mpg. I want a truck that's going to throw it's shoulder into the work I give it and not require a trip to the shop afterwards.

 

I can't stand it. I was behind one on the road the other day and it sounded like a sport bike.