Ford Taptor V-8 turbo and Ram with Hellcat engine rumors?

Maybe Toyota will step up too to compete?
Peace. D
https://jalopnik.com/fords-raptor-may-get-supercharged-v8-powered-special-ed-1833514448

 

It will be a cold day in hell when Toyota lifts a finger to attack that front.

They didn’t engineer their own Supra for Christ’s sake. Instead They slapped badges on a BMW which they then de-tuned in the name of reliability...

Their other sports car is a Subaru and the Tundra TRD pro is a shock package on an SR5 with a plastic steering wheel. They dumped the TRD supercharger and have shown absolutely no desire to engineer their own high performance anything.

Toyota’s margins are spectacular for these reasons and I don’t see them wasting engineering dollars on any high performance low volume anything.

Not that I’m a bitter child of the 90s and wish for a real Supra and an mr2 or perhaps a celica GTs or anything....

/rant

 

Pfffft. Next thread please.

 

Decent rant..

 

Only chance of that would be if they wanted to build some kind of halo project, a la LF-A. Otherwise I think Ford and Ram have the $100k pickup market cornered for a while.

 

Spotted.......in a remote canyon somewhere..... secret test cell firing up the new Tundra motor.......love the smell of hydrazine propellant in the morning......

 

cheap Raptors Ecoboost for sale soon

 

A turbo or SC 4.6 in any Toyota would be cool tho.

One can dream can’t they?

 

Apart from the tundra, I don't like any toyota models.

 

Toyota's margins should certainly be climbing in these last few years. My 2010 SR5 has standard features not found on new SR5's. A freshened interior, a few added V-Crimps on the body, a few LED's and "Drive It For Me" electronics, that are already causing problems. If I were in the market today, it would be a tough call.

Corolla S and Rav V6 were the last ones I liked.

 

Lol our rav4 didn't even come with automatic headlights and it's an xle or even an automatic driver seat

 

It wouldn't take much arm twisting to put me in a Sequoia, if I suddenly needed the interior space.

 

F150 and FCA reliability is so poor that their trucks are borderline useless. I can’t see how increasing the complexity by this much will help in that regard. These two trucks, if built, will spend most of their lives in the shop

 

Thats the ford way now. Dont worry about fixing our current platform and lets just make a whole new platform!

 

I already have a supercharged V8 Tundra.

Back to the Supra.....damn. Give it a rest. They outsourced the build to Toyota’s spec....far cry from a rebadge. BMW isn’t that bad.

 

Exactly! Well said!

 

Really even the car line up Camry and Avalon? Not to mention the Trd models for both of those cars coming out in June .

 

Nope, and the trds aren't even performance upgrades it's just designs.

 

Well I guess but for a family car to have 301 h.p. that's pretty sweet . They do have upgraded exhaust. For what ever that's worth. They do look pretty nice. My wife has th 2018 Camry now and wants the trd one when it comes out. Here is hers now.

 

TRD at least on the Tundra is far from design only but I get your point it doesn’t go far enough.

 

And our Avalon is an awesome car.

 

The new Avalon's are amazing I would take it over alot of cars out their. Even a Lexus or BMW

 

I usually only buy bm's and merc's

 

I think you have your facts confused. The Supra is a BMW Z4 soup to nuts. Built in Europe. It’s a BMW design, all the parts say BMW on them. The engine is a BMW mill with zero Toyota specific parts that’s been off the shelf for a while as is the transmission. The suspension bits and other parts are BMW as well. Toyota tweaked the suspension settings and the software in the ecu. That’s it.

https://jalopnik.com/what-we-found-...2WmVKcHlIdEkzWHd1ZktacEU1ZXNubHdyNVpZa1lreE0.

https://jalopnik.com/here-s-where-t...2WmVKcHlIdEkzWHd1ZktacEU1ZXNubHdyNVpZa1lreE0.

Honestly if BMW had given the chassis and Toyota the electronics and engine/trans combo that wouldn’t have been a bad thing, But that wasn’t the case. The future will see toyotas reputation take a hit due to BMW reliability with a Toyota label.


On the other hand Toyota sold the Chevy cavalier in japan as a Toyota and they survived that disaster so...

 

"The 10-speed automatic currently in the Raptor should still be able to hold up to the big V8's grunt, as it was jointly developed with GM and Chevrolet uses it in the high-powered Camaro ZL1."

"Car and Driver posit that the big V8 monster will command a $15,000 premium over the current Raptor’s $54,450 MSRP. If it’s any kind of limited-production model, it’ll surely have dealer markups well beyond that number."

This article reads like a tabloid. I don't think that I would really want 700 HP in a truck that I take offroad. But the TRD Pro could really use some better tires and a rear locker from the factory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yImwDPeKX8s

 

The demand for the Raptor V8 turbo and Ram 1500 Hellcat may not be as high as they may want it to be, because they would all be $100k trucks. In my opinion, the majority of pickup truck owners are everyday hard working class people. Of which, would not be able to afford to buy any pickup truck in that price range. Plus, on the flip side, wealthy people aren’t really into pickup trucks. They like European sports cars and luxury vehicles. Therefore, that leaves just a handful of folks that can afford those prices for pickup trucks and would be willing to buy it.

It’s different when the average person buys a $40k-$50k pickup truck. Then, spend a few more $ks on mods. From buying cheap parts for mods and trading for parts on forums like this, that’s about the only way that most of us can afford to modify or pickup trucks.

It sure would be great to see and own those types of high performance pickup trucks, though.